While massaging the foot I located the source of the pain, a small spot and noticed a slight discoloration of the skin with two small puncture marks. I think having your house sprayed does bring out all the critters as they choke and splutter for fresh air, but they normally don’t last more than 24 hours. Not sure how that affects things, but hospital didn’t seem concerned. Autonomic features include severe sweating which may be regional (e.g. The slight swelling and redness went away after a couple of days without incident. I know it was a redback because it was dead but recognisable when I shook it out of my shoe. I think this is rare though and for most people the pain goes away completely within three or four. Life in Australia – Moving to Australia – By BobinOz. I am copying (this next bit) what I posted onto Facebook. The next day I spoke to Lisa, a born and bred Aussie who was bitten by a Redback when she was a little girl. Südhof TC. I had rung the medical hotline they said unless I get sick or pain radiates don’t worry. Chris is an Intensivist and ECMO specialist at the Alfred ICU in Melbourne. I am aware that doctors are often reluctant to administer the antivenom because, as I understand it, it can have adverse effects sometimes. I felt sick in the gut, wanting to vomit but didnt. Glad to hear you got to the bottom of it (no pun intended, honestly) and that your boy is making good progress and I hope he makes an absolutely full recovery very soon. Wow, this is probably the biggest collection of Red Back’s encounters. Probably due to the garden gloves and being able to pull the glove off my hand immediately I felt the two bites (hurt like sonofabitch), could not see the bites. This left a narrow hole in my leg. It will be interesting to see how this one develops. I’ve switched to ice which gives total relief but only when on it. This was a over a month ago and he still has itching at the site and some leg cramping. If symptoms are still present after 7 days, revisit your doctor. Some of which use antivenom and some do not. He coordinates the Alfred ICU’s education and simulation programmes and runs the unit’s education website, INTENSIVE. However, the next day I went to a pharmacist who suggested a combined pain relief with Panadol and ibuprofen as well as an antiseptic cream. So none of those bits sound like a redback to me but quite a few of the other bits do. A 27 year-old woman felt a sting on the back of the right leg while pulling on her tracksuit pants. And that’s when I discovered that most of my search results led to the Redback Spider bite. If it had been my daughter who was bitten, she’d have been straight off to hospital. Most people, including myself, have mentioned a round sticky red patch the size of a 20 cent coin as the only evidence at the bite site. Anitvenom is available. Just cleaned up around my caravan. CSL Redback Spider antivenom is very safe. I don’t remember a bite but I remember some pain on my inner thigh one evening after sitting out in the garden. Name the toxin in Redback Spider venom and describe its mechanism of action. We were having a slap up a pizza together. Reassure the patient, apply an ice pack and give simple oral analgesia such as paracetamol. Cath. I realise that some of you may have found this page because you have just been bitten by a Redback Spider and you want to know what to do. *anti-venom is not recommended as it can cause problems. Against my better judgment, I went to the chemist and took two tablets to ease the searing pain. Nothing worked, but I finally went home with Oxycodone, Nurofen and Panadol and bumped up the recommended dose quite a lot. Loves the misery of alpine climbing and working in austere environments. Went through a terrible night of pain, worst pain ever, I kept telling them it was 15 when they asked me to rate it out of 10, at the hospital where they tried everything in the way of pain relief that they had in their cupboard. First time was 2 years ago on my shin. How to treat suspected spider bite. All night in bed the itch & stinging didnt stop hence me believing it must of been a red back after I looked up symptoms, came across your blog & what you described is the same experience as Ive had. I was feeling a bit nauseous by now and sweating a lot. (Tick, probably, I didn’t feel the bite remember. Bank Holiday Monday, And this event really should have ended in death. Heather. Let’s get a second opinion on this from a doctor who has treated many envenomated patients over the years. My own fault for not checking the shoe but didn’t feel the sting . It doesn’t look as though Ouch is still around monitoring this conversation, but I do hope you are feeling much better now. *the bite is not obvious, no fang punctures to be seen. Couldn’t see 2 prong marks or any bite mark. so I have just dipped my thumb in undiluted Dettol and the soreness has eased a great deal. Maybe it was or maybe it wasn’t, but if you have the time, I’d skim through these comments here and have a good read of what other people’s experiences have been like to see if they help you decide whether it was or wasn’t a redback. I did not know that I had been bitten. It was always worse at night too but now it seems to be constant all day long. By the end of the day my toe was swollen and sweating. Will see how it will progress tomorrow. Quickly jumped into my thongs and walked towards then bin. Pain typically radiates proximally from the bite site to become regional then general (e.g. You can track them down on the previous comment pages. The chances of finding out are quite remote, most sources quote around 2,000 Redback bites occur in Australia each year. Damn. Since Redback Spiders don’t stray from their webs often, it is unlikely that a human will be bitten unless they come into direct contact with the web or female spider. Did this happen to you? Most people report a round red sticky patch about the size of a 20 cent coin. Got GZp appointment tomorrow. They gave me fluids and I soon felt better – just pain in the leg. I held up my arm with the peas and his face dropped he started trying to find his phone to ring 000 once I calmed him down I went inside to rest. Randomised controlled trial of intravenous antivenom versus placebo for lactrodectism: the second redback antivenom evaluation (RAVE II) study. The pain was a searing burn up my arm. Sweating first started to affect her right leg but became generalized and was especially profuse over her head and limbs. We have them all over the garden and my kids know how to identify them and stsy out of their way. (Tick), Local intense pain follows after about five minutes. The male Redback Spider is usually light brown with white or yellow markings instead of red or orange. Seems weird for systemic envenomation symptoms to have such a delayed onset (6-7 days)? It’s autumn here and a perfect time for trimming back the weeds and the overgrowth just ahead of winters dry weather. It was quite a big female also, I’ve heard conflicting views on the biting abilities of the male The Australian Wolf Spider: Is It Dangerous? I got bitten 3 days ago. Redback Spider Antivenom Doesn’t Work; True or False? | INTENSIVE | RAGE | Resuscitology | SMACC. 2001;24:933-62. So, from what you say, it’s hard to tell what might have bitten you. 31961), we provide you with nationally accredited First Aid training. That’s only my guess, for what it’s worth. Systemic envenoming occurs in a significant minority of patients. Pretty sure it wasn’t a Redback bite even though they told me it was. Spider Bite, I was bitten by a redback on the elbow in april 2014 at approx 7pm. We ended up in Neurology at Westmead with a child with no reflexes in his legs and unable to walk at all. Finally decided to pay the doctor a visit – had an xray that showed no breakage. I took some more tablets at 1.30am. ), Localised sweating often occurs around the bite. Well, it doesn’t sound like a redback bite to me, there were no visible signs of any puncture marks when I was bitten. I hope so! *it is the worst pain that I have ever experienced other than a burst appendix. Got my bite today, around 10:30am. If you look at the link underneath the March 2014 update, you’ll find an interview I had with a professor who is an expert in these matters, and he swears by the antivenom for redback spider bites. Not bad pain at all actually – I didn’t even inspect it. Hope you make a full recovery soon. All of a sudden, whilst transporting one of these bunches I became aware of intense pain in the back of my wrist. Here’s what she had to say…. And I am not very big, about 52kg, plus my age. Yum! How long will this last. That’s comforting, isn’t it? Similarly, nausea, sweating, and I think even limbs turning black have also been mentioned by some in the comments, so again, these could all be signs of a redback bite. In my instance, the antivenom worked really well. I hope that pain goes away soon. I do like the sound of your doctor, mine never gives me scripts for grog I hope the treatment works, eventually…..
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